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huda_alrahim
03-20-2007, 02:00 AM
- Sa se faca o petrecere , doar cu femeile (atata vreme cat femeile sunt musulmace ) daca au de gand femeile sa se imbrace mai leger . Pentru ca o femeie nemusulmanca nu trebuie sa vada la una musulmana decat fata si palmele (dupa unii savanti) sau nimic (dupa altii savanti) .

Assalamu alaikum!
Am postat intrebarea si la threadul la care acest raspuns a aparut, dar nimeni nu a raspuns si oricum era off topic, asa ca m-am gandit ca e mai bine sa deschid un nou thread.
Puteti sa argumentati aceasta afirmatie mai detaliat?
Jazak Allah khair

imanikka
03-20-2007, 02:56 AM
Assalamu alaikum!
Am postat intrebarea si la threadul la care acest raspuns a aparut, dar nimeni nu a raspuns si oricum era off topic, asa ca m-am gandit ca e mai bine sa deschid un nou thread.
Puteti sa argumentati aceasta afirmatie mai detaliat?
Jazak Allah khair



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Allah stie cel mai bine

huda_alrahim
03-20-2007, 04:15 AM
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Fiqh w Sunna

Allah stie cel mai bine

Jazak Allah khair. Multumesc pt quote, dar aceasta nu intareste opinia lui Suleiman. Aici spune ca o femei in fata altei femei trebuie sa fie acoperita ca un barbat in fata altui barbat... deci nu trebuie sa fie acoperita in cazul in care sta in fata altei femei, decat daca sta in fata altui barbat, care nu ii este muharam...
Allah stie mai bine

ummraschid
03-20-2007, 11:54 AM
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assalamu alaikum wa rahmatu-llahu ta'ala wa barakatuhu,


draga surioara huda_alrahim,

iata cateva pasaje care, inshaallah, sa lamureasca, cat de cat...


1. in ce priveste savantii care sant de parere ca o femeie musulmanca POATE sa-si arate fata si mainile...


Awra in front of non-Muslim women

The Awra of a woman in front of non-Muslim women is, strictly speaking, the same that is in front of non-Mahram men, i.e. the whole body besides the hands, face and the feet.

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The exegetes of the Qur’an differ with regards to the interpretation of this statement of Allah. Imam Fakhr al-Din al-Razi (Allah have mercy on him) states:

“With regards to the statement of Allah “or their women”, there are two opinions. The first is that it refers to those women who are on the same religion (din) as them (i.e. Muslims, m). This is the opinion of the majority of the predecessors (salaf). Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with him) states: “It is impermissible for a believing/Muslim woman to uncover herself in front of non-Muslim women, and she is only allowed to expose that what is allowed in front of non-Mahram men… Sayyiduna Umar ibn al-Khattab (Allah be pleased with him) wrote to Abu Ubaida ibn al-Jarrah (Allah be pleased with him) to stop non-Muslim women from entering bath areas (hammam) with Muslim women.

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“An unbelieving woman is similar to a non-Mahram man according to the correct opinion. Thus, she is not allowed to see the body of a Muslim woman”. (Radd al-Muhtar, 6/371).

Allama Ibn Abidin (Allah have mercy on him) explains:

“It is impermissible for a Muslim woman to uncover in front of a Jewish, Christian or a atheist woman except if she is her slave…It is also disliked that a corrupt woman (fasiqa) sees the body of a pious woman, for she may describe her to the men, thus she should avoid taking off her outer garment (jilbab) or scarf (khimar)”. (ibid).

It is evident from the text of Ibn Abidin that the main reason for the impermissibility of uncovering in front of a non-Muslim woman is that she may describe her to other men. If this is feared from a corrupt Muslim woman, then one should avoid uncovering in front of her also.

sursa: The Fiqh of Covering One's Nakedness (Awra): A Detailed Explanation
Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari
Darul Iftaa, Leicester, UK



2. in ce priveste savantii care sant de parere ca o femeie musulmnaca NU POATE ( nu are voie) sa-si arate nici fata ,nici mainile...




In addition, a Muslimah should not uncover that which she normally uncovers, in front of any non-Muslim female whom she fears may describe her to others. She may also choose to remain covered around any Muslim female whom she fears may describe her physical attributes to their husband or others.

Hadith - Bukhari 7:167

The Prophet said, "A woman should not look at or touch another woman to describe her to her husband in such a way as if he was actually looking at her."


The following Fatawa is from Sheikh Ibn Uthaimin:

"The Islamic hijab is for the women to cover everything that is forbidden for her to expose. That is, she covers everything that she must cover.

"The first of those bodily parts that she must cover is her face. It is the source of temptation and the source of people desiring her. Therefore, the woman must cover her face in front of those men that are not Mahram (i.e. father, huband, etc.).

"As for those who claim that Islamic hijab is to cover the head, shoulders, back, feet, shin and forearms while allowing her to uncover her face and hands, this is a very amazing claim. This is because it is well-known that the source of temptation and looking is the face. How can one say that the Shariah does no allow the exposure of the foot of the woman while it allows her to uncover her face?

sursa: muttaqunonline


...imi cer scuze ca nu am tradus pasajele respective,
inshaallah,
draga surioara sa-ti foloseasca totusi!...


assalamu alaikum wa rahmatu-llahu ta'ala wa barakatuhu

huda_alrahim
03-20-2007, 12:40 PM
Jazak Allah khair surioara! Nu iti face griji, am inteles tot! Multumesc mult! Azi am sa cer celor care au spus ca nu este adevarat sursele lor, sa vad pe ce si-au bazat afirmatiile. Allah sa va rasplateasca!!

gabriela guettat
03-20-2007, 12:50 PM
Huda habibty:give_rose: :give_rose: :give_rose:ce intrebare de bun-simtz,mashallah!
PAREREA MEA PERSONALA:

Draga mea,adica eu in fata
SURORI MELE NEMUSLIME SA STAU ACOPERITA???
IN FATA MATUSHI MELE??
IN FATA MAMEI??

Draga mea sa fim serioase,DE CE TREBUIE SA FIM ATAT DE EXTREMISTE?
Femeile intre femei, sunt PUR SI SIMPLU FEMEI.

Ce frumoasa e religia noastra,nu intzeleg de ce trebuie sa fim FOARTE-FOARTE,ori asta ar duce la conluzia CA NU SUNTEM MUSLIME BUNE?