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Raisa
05-06-2006, 02:27 PM
Salam alekom tuturor

O intrebare cat se poate de serioasa. Ce se spune despre niqab in Qu'ran si Sunna? Este obligatoriu niqabul sau nu?

Va rog sa aduceti versete sau hadisuri clare, orice gasiti si daca se poate la sfarsit sa stiu care parere este unanim acceptata.

Multumesc

ummraschid
05-07-2006, 10:19 PM
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assalamualaikum wa rahmatuAllahi wa barakatuhu,


draga amal....jazakAllahu khairan....

intrebarea este , desigur , f importanta....insa ma tem ca se vor naste discutii interminabile, inshAllah, sa nu fie asa....ma gindesc numai la discutiile cauzate de postarile despre hijab!...

intii, sa lamurim si membrii nemusulmani, despre ce este vorba...Niqab-ul este piesa vestimentara care acopera fata unei femei, prevazut cu o deschizatura, absolut suficienta , pt ochi...chiar si cele care poarta ochelari, nu sint dezavantajate de aceasta!...
...niqabul, i se mai spune si burqa, desi, ceea ce vedem la femeile afgane, dupa parerea mea, nu este chiar niqabul cunoscut din tarile arabe...



In privinta obligativitatii purtarii niqabului, invatatii musulmani, au pareri impartite; unii spun ca este Sunna, altii, spun ca este fardh. Insa, ceea ce este SIGUR, si sint cu totii de acord, este ca niqabul este in mod sigur, "cel putin SUNNA", adica , el nu este in nici un caz, o traditie pre-islamica, si nici nu este o inovatie, Bid'a.

In privinta parerilor impartite ale invatatilor, argumentele celor care pledeaza pt niqab= fardh, sint mai numeroase, si mai puternice, decit ale celorlalti!...
...si, daca , am incerca noi insine, sa cugetam la acest aspect...odata ce, ca musulmani, sintem obligati sa urmam Qur'anul si Sunna Profetului(saws), si, ca femei, sa urmam exemplul mamelor credinciosilor, sotiile Profetului Muhammad (saws), si odata ce sintem convinsi, este fapt in unanimitate acceptat, ca acestea au purtat niqab, si obisnuiau sa-si acopere fetele in fata barbatilor straini, care ar fi concluzia cea mai la indemina?...va las pe voi sa decideti!...


Hadith-Abu Dawud relatat de Dihyah ibn Khalifah al-Kalbi

Profetului lui Allah (saws), i se adusera bucati de pinza fina egipteana si mi-a dat una mie, spunindu-mi: tai-o in doua, dintr-una sa-ti faci o camasa, iar pe cealalta sa o dai sotiei tale, pt val. Apoi, cind se intoarse, spuse: Si spune-i sa poarte o rochie sub el, si sa nu-si arate fata.


Tafseer Ibn Katheer

" Allah a poruncit ca femeile sa se acopere cu o pinza din crestetul capului, care sa acopere tot corpul, cu exceptia unui singur ochi, atunci cind au nevoie sa iasa din casa."


Tafseer - Alu'si, Rul-ul-Ma'ani, Vol. 22, p. 89

"Ibn Jarir Tabari si Ibn Al-Mundhir descriu felul metoda de purtare a jilbabului, dupa Ibn Abbas(ra) si Qatadah(ra):Pinza trebuie sa acopere, de la crestet, acoperind partea de sus a capului, si aducind o parte a pinzei peste fata, pe sub ochi, astfel incit sa acopere mare parte din fata si partea de sus a corpului; in acest fel va lasa amindoi ochii descoperiti."


Este binecunoscut ca sotiile profetului Muhammad (saws), purtau niqab. Si o femeie pe nume Asmaa, care nu era sotia Profetului (saws), purta deasemenea.

In Fathul Bari, capitolul Hajj:
" 'A'isha (ra) spunea ca o femeie in sadiul de Ihram, trebuie sa traga acoperamintul de pe cap, peste fata , pt a si-o ascunde."


Hadith - Ahmad, Abu Dawud si ibn Majah, relatat de 'Aisha

" Calareti trebuiau sa treaca pe linga noi, cind eram cu Profetul lui Allah (saws). Cind se apropiau de noi, ne trageam acoperamintul capului, peste fete.Dupa ce treceau, ne descopeream fetele."


Deci, daca purtarea niqabului este obligatorie sau nu, cert este ca este un semn deosebit si deziderabil de piosenie. Ce alt exemplu mai bun de urmat , pt o femeie musulmana, decit sotiile Profetului Muhammad (saws)?...

Argumentele invatatilor care sint de parere ca niqabul nu este obligatoriu, se bazeaza doar pe urmatoarele:

Hadithul lui 'A'isha (ra), cind Asmaa (ra), fiica lui Abu Bakr, venii la Rasulullah( saws), intr-o imbracaminte subtire. El (saws) s-a apropiat de ea, si i-a spus:"O, Asmaa, cind o fata ajunge la virsta pubertatii, nu se cuvine, sa mai arate, decit asta si asta." Si arata fata si miinile.

Acest Hadith este slab, din doua motive:

1. Nu exista nici o legatura intre 'A'isha (ra) si Khalid bin Dareek, care a relatat acest Hadith, si in fiecare lant de relatari a fost gasit acest nume.

2.In lantul de relatari apare Sa'eed bin Basheer, cunoscut de toti , ca un f slab transmitator.

Lucruri mentionate si de Imaam Ahmad bin Hanbal (ra),An-Nasai (ra), Ibn Madeeni (ra) si Ibn Ma'een (ra). Motive pt care Imam Buchari si Muslim nu au preluat acest hadith in culegerile lor.
La toate acestea se adauga si faptul ca, dupa revelarea in Qur'an Surat Al-Ahzaab:59, Asmaa , fiica lui Abu Bakr, (ra), purta fata acoperita, ori , se presupune ca de la ea, provine Hadithul respectiv.

( Sursa: muttaqun.com)



assalamualaikum wa rahmatuAllahi wa barakatuhu

Raisa
05-07-2006, 11:59 PM
[QUOTE=ummraschid

Pinza trebuie sa acopere, de la crestet, acoperind partea de sus a capului, si aducind o parte a pinzei peste fata, pe sub ochi, astfel incit sa acopere mare parte din fata si partea de sus a corpului; in acest fel va lasa amindoi ochii descoperiti.[/QUOTE]

Multumesc mult pt raspunsul tau draga sora.

Jazak Allah Khair

Ma interesa in mod special sa stiu daca este scris undeva in Qu'ran despre acoperirea totala a fetei pt ca cineva mi-a spus ca exista un cuvant in araba in Qu'ran care face referire tocmai la asta. Nu stiu acest cuvant si este prima data cand aud ca este scris in Qu'ran despre niqab. Stiam ca din hadisuri se relateaza aceasta.

Si inca ceva important, de la care a pornit intrebarea mea: acoperirea ochilor este obligatorie sau nu? Tu ai postat ceva referitor la asta, unele se refera la lasarea ochilor afara, altele la lasarea unui singur ochi pt a vedea cu el.

Acum vine intrebarea mea: se poate trage o concluzie ca niqabul este obligatoriu dar nu si acoperirea ochilor? Desigur, este de apreciat la cei care pot sa faca mai mult pt Allah dar totusi acoperirea ochilor duce in timp la slabirea vederii, spun asta cu siguranta.

Cum pot sa conving pe cineva ca nu este haram sa lasi ochii afara? II spun de hadisul pe care l-am remarcat sus dar daca imi vine cu ala cu un ochi acoperit? Nu inseamna asta de fapt ca trebuie sa facem in asa fel incat sa nu ne punem sanatatea in pericol?

Chiar va rog daca mai gasiti ceva in sprijinul acestei idei sa ma ajutati.

Draga sora, iti multumesc din suflet pt raspunsul tau. Fiecare alege cum crede ca e mai bine dar in unele situatii se mai isca discutii pe marginea acestor subiecte si atunci trebuie sa avem argumentele de partea noastra

Rog insistent ca cei care au informatii clare sa le posteze aici intru ajutorul celor care au intrebari legate de acest subiect iar cei care au alte pareri sa le posteze in alt topic, nu vreau discutii in contradictoriu, doar niste informatii clare.

Multumesc pt intelegere

imanikka
05-08-2006, 01:48 AM
Ummrashid Allah sa te rasplateasca pentru efortul tau , fiindca sigur ai tradus din engleza sau franceza:smile19: Allah sa te binecuvanteze.
Cautand si eu despre Niqab , am citit ca nu este permis ca in timpul pelerinajului sa porti Niqab , dar nu prea am inteles clar. Zi de zi (conform unora) este fard , dar in timpul pelerinajului nu.

Abd Allah ibn Omar a zis:
Un om s-a ridicat si a intrebat: O , trimis al lui Allah , care este imbracamintea recomnadata unui pelerin ? Profetul ( saws) a zis: Nu purtati nici camasa , nici pantalon , nici turban , nici capison.Cel care nu are pantofi , poate sa poarte botine cu conditia sa le taia sub glezne. ... Femeia sa nu poarte nici Niqab , nici manusi. (al-Boukhari1468 ).
Sursa: http://laplumedelislam.free.fr/pratique/hajj/4.htm
Allah stie mai bine

batool391
05-08-2006, 11:54 AM
With regard to the niqaab, what are the ahaadeeth and aayaat that refer specifically to it?.


Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.

The correct view is that a woman is obliged to cover her entire body, even the face and hands. Imam Ahmad said that even the nails of a woman are ‘awrah, and this is also the view of Maalik (may Allaah have mercy on them both). Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

“… It seems that the view of Ahmad is that every part of her is ‘awrah, even her nails, and this is also the view of Maalik.”

(Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 22/110).

In contrast to those who say that this is not obligatory, if we examine the views of those who say that it is not obligatory for women to cover the face, we will see that it is as Shaykh Bakr Abu Zayd (may Allaah preserve him) said:

“One of the following three scenarios must apply:

1 – There is clear, sound evidence, but it has been abrogated by the verses that enjoin hijaab…

2 – There is sound evidence but it is not clear, and it does not constitute strong evidence when taken in conjunction with the definitive evidence from the Qur’aan and Sunnah that the face and hands must be covered…

3 – There is clear evidence, but it is not sound…”

(Hiraasat al-Fadeelah, p. 68-69)

With regard to the evidence that it is obligatory to cover the face and hands:

1 – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”

[al-Ahzaab 33:59]

Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

“Allaah commands women to let the jilbaab come down (over their faces) so that they will be known (as respectable women) and not be annoyed or disturbed. This evidence supports the first opinion. ‘Ubaydah al-Salmaani and others stated that the women used to wear the jilbaab coming down from the top of their heads in such a manner that nothing could be seen except their eyes, so that they could see where they were going. It was proven in al-Saheeh that the woman in ihraam is forbidden to wear the niqaab and gloves. This is what proves that the niqaab and gloves were known among women who were not in ihraam. This implies that they covered their faces and hands.”

(Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 15/371-372)

2 – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, headcover, apron), and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)…”

[al-Noor 24:31]

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said:

“With regard to the phrase ‘and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent’, ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood said: the adornment which is apparent is the garment, because the word zeenah (adornment) was originally a name for the clothes and jewellery, as we see in the verses in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

‘Take your adornment (by wearing your clean clothes)’

[al-A’raaf 7:31]

‘Say (O Muhammad): Who has forbidden the adornment with clothes given by Allaah, which He has produced for His slaves’

[al-A’raaf 7:32]

‘And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment’

[al-Noor 24:31]

Stamping the feet makes known the khulkhaal (anklets) and other kinds of jewellery and clothing. Allaah forbade women to show any kind of adornment except that which is apparent, but He allowed showing the hidden adornment to mahrams. It is known that the kind of adornment that usually appears, without any choice on the part of the women, is the clothing, as for the body, it is possible to either show it or to cover it. All of this indicates that what appears of the adornment is the clothing.

Ahmad said: the adornment which is apparent is the clothing. And he said: every part of a woman is ‘awrah, even her nails. It was narrated in the hadeeth, ‘The woman is ‘awrah,’ This includes all of the woman. It is not makrooh to cover the hands during prayer, so they are part of the ‘awrah, just like the feet. Analogy implies that the face would be ‘awrah were it not for the fact that necessity dictates that it should be uncovered during prayer, unlike the hands.”

Sharh al-‘Umdah, 4/267-268.

3 – It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah said: “The riders used to pass by us when we were with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in ihraam. When they came near, each of us would lower her jilbaab from her head over her face, and when they passed by we would uncover (our faces).”

Narrated by Abu Dawood, 1833; Ahmad, 24067

Shaykh al-Albaani said in Jilbaab al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah (107): its isnaad is hasan because of the existence of corroborating reports.

It is well known that a woman should not put anything over her face when she is in ihraam, but ‘Aa’ishah and the Sahaabiyaat (women of the Sahaabah) who were with her used to lower part of their garments over their faces because the obligation to cover the face when non-mahrams pass by is stronger than the obligation to uncover the face when in ihraam.

4 – It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “May Allaah have mercy on the women of the Muhaajireen. When Allaah revealed the words (interpretation of the meaning)

‘and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)…”

[al-Noor 24:31], they tore their aprons and covered their faces with them.”

(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4480)

5 – It was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah… that Safwaan ibn al-Mu’attal al-Sulami al-Dhakwaani was lagging behind the army. He came to where I had stopped and saw the black shape of a person sleeping. He recognized me when he saw me, because he had seen me before hijaab was enjoined. I woke up when I heard him saying ‘Inna Lillaahi wa inna ilayhi raaji’oon (verily to Allaah we belong and unto Him is our return),’ when he saw me, and I covered my face with my jilbaab.”

(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3910; Muslim, 2770)

6 – It was narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The woman is ‘awrah and when she goes out the Shaytaan gets his hopes up.”

(Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 1173).

Al-Albaani said in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi (936): It is saheeh.

Please see Question no. 21134 for more information about the niqaab.

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batool391
05-08-2006, 11:55 AM
Is it permissible to show the eyes only in front of non-mahram men?.


Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.

Yes, it is permissible for a woman to show her eyes. That is so that she will be able to see. But it is not permissible for men to look at the eyes of a woman.

Shaykh ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Humayd (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

If the burqa’ [a kind of face veil] covers the entire face, leaving only the eyes uncovered, there is nothing wrong with that. But if it does not cover the entire face, rather it covers the mouth and leaves the rest of the face uncovered, that is not permissible, especially in the presence of non-mahram men.

So the entire face must be covered, but the eyes may be left uncovered so that the woman can see where she is going, as was said by Ibn Mas’ood, ‘Ubaydah al-Salmaani and others. And Allaah knows best.

Fataawa al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, 1/393, 394.

And Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan (may Allaah preserve him) said:

There is nothing wrong with covering the face with the niqaab or burqa’ [kinds of face veil] which has two openings for the eyes only, because this was known at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), because there is a need for that. If nothing shows but the eyes, that is acceptable, especially if that is what women customarily wear in that society.

Fataawa al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, 1/399

But we should note that the majority of women, nowadays, do not stop at uncovering the eyes only, rather they go beyond that and uncover part of the forehead and nose, so they go beyond the area that it is permitted for them to show. Hence some of the scholars – such as Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) – forbade wearing the burqa’ and niqaab, because of the careless attitude on the part of some women.


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batool391
05-08-2006, 11:56 AM
Is wearing niqaab one of the conditions of Islamic dress for women?


Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.

Hijaab in Arabic means covering or concealing. Hijaab is the name of something that is used to cover. Everything that comes between two things is hijaab.

Hijaab means everything that is used to cover something and prevent anyone from reaching it, such as curtains, door keepers and garments, etc.

Khimaar comes from the word khamr, the root meaning of which is to cover. For example, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Khammiru aaniyatakum (cover your vessels).” Everything that covers something else is called its khimaar.

But in common usage khimaar has come to be used as a name for the garment with which a woman covers her head; in some cases this does not go against the linguistic meaning of khimaar.

Some of the fuqahaa’ have defined it as that which covers the head, the temples and the neck.

The difference between the hijaab and the khimaar is that the hijaab is something which covers all of a woman’s body, whilst the khimaar in general is something with which a woman covers her head.

Niqaab is that with which a woman veils her face (tantaqib)…

The difference between hijaab and niqaab is that the hijaab is that which covers all the body, whilst niqaab is that which covers a woman’s face only.

The woman’s dress as prescribed in sharee’ah (“Islamic dress”) is that which covers her head, face and all of her body.

But the niqaab or burqa’ – which shows the eyes of the woman – has become widespread among women, and some of them do not wear it properly. Some scholars have forbidden wearing it on the grounds that it is not Islamic in origin, and because it is used improperly and people treat it as something insignificant, -----strating negligent attitudes towards it and using new forms of niqaab which are not prescribed in Islam, widening the opening for the eyes so that the cheeks, nose and part of the forehead are also visible.

Therefore, if the woman’s niqaab or burqa’ does not show anything but the eyes, and the opening is only as big as the left eye, as was narrated from some of the salaf, then that is permissible, otherwise she should wear something which covers her face entirely.

Shaykh Muhammad al-Saalih al-‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

The hijaab prescribed in sharee’ah means that a woman should cover everything that it is haraam for her to show, i.e., she should cover that which it is obligatory for her to cover, first and foremost of which is the face, because it is the focus of temptation and desire.

A woman is obliged to cover her face in front of anyone who is not her mahram (blood relative to whom marriage is forbidden). From this we learn that the face is the most essential thing to be covered. There is evidence from the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and the views of the Sahaabah and the imams and scholars of Islam, which indicates that women are obliged to cover all of their bodies in front of those who are not their mahrams.

Fataawa al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, 1/ 391, 392)

Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan (may Allaah preserve him) said:

The correct view as indicated by the evidence is that the woman’s face is ‘awrah which must be covered. It is the most tempting part of her body, because what people look at most is the face, so the face is the greatest ‘awrah of a woman. This is in addition to the shar’i evidence which states that it is obligatory to cover the face.

For example, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, headcover, apron), and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)…”

[al-Noor 24:31]

Drawing the veil all over the juyoob implies covering the face.

When Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) was asked about the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies”

[al-Ahzaab 33:59] –

he covered his face, leaving only one eye showing. This indicates that what was meant by the aayah was covering the face. This was the interpretation of Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) of this aayah, as narrated from him by ‘Ubaydah al-Salmaani when he asked him about it.

In the Sunnah there are many ahaadeeth, such as: the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The woman in ihraam is forbidden to veil her face (wear niqaab) or to wear the burqa’.” This indicates that when women were not in ihraam, women used to cover their faces.

This does not mean that if a woman takes off her niqaab or burqa’ in the state of ihraam that she should leave her face uncovered in the presence of non-mahram men. Rather she is obliged to cover it with something other than the niqaab or burqa’, on the evidence of the hadeeth of ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) who said: “We were with the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in ihraam, and when men passed by us, we would lower the khimaar on our heads over our faces, and when they moved on we would lift it again.”

Women in ihraam and otherwise are obliged to cover their faces in front of non-mahram men, because the face is the center of beauty and it is the place that men look at… and Allaah knows best.

Fataawa al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, 1/396, 397

He also said:

It is OK to cover the face with the niqaab or burqa’ which has two openings for the eyes only, because this was known at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and because of necessity. If nothing but the eyes show, this is fine, especially if this is customarily worn by women in her society.

Fataawa al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, 1/399

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batool391
05-08-2006, 11:58 AM
Is the niqab a pre-islamic custom if not what is the evidence (qur'an or hadith) to support the wearing of niqab, and is it preferred for sisters to wear the niqab?
jazakumallaahu khairan.


Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.

We have already spoken about the fact that it is obligatory for women to cover their faces in Question #2198, so please refer to that question.

With regard to the niqaab, this is a cover or veil with a hole in it for the eyes. It is a way of dressing that was known to Muslim women at the beginning of Islam, and it is mentioned in the hadeeth of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in which he mentions what women in ihraam (for Hajj or ‘Umrah) are not allowed to do. He said: “The woman in ihraam should not cover her face with a veil or wear gloves.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 1707). Some of the scholars mentioned that a woman may uncover her left eye in order to see where she is going, and if necessary she may uncover both eyes. The opening should only be wide enough for the eyes, and the woman should beware of wearing a niqaab with wide openings lest the beauty of her eyes becomes apparent and the niqaab becomes a means of temptation instead of a veil covering her beauty and adornment.


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batool391
05-08-2006, 12:13 PM
We know that the most correct opinion among the scholars is that women should cover their faces, but there are many situations where women cannot cover their faces. Could you shed more light on this topic?


Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.

The most correct opinion, which is supported by evidence, is that it is obligatory to cover the face, therefore young women are forbidden to uncover their faces in front of non-mahram men in order to avoid any mischief, and they should certainly do so when there is fear of fitnah (temptation).


These special situations may be summed up as follows:

I – Proposal of marriage











II – Business dealings




III – Medical treatment




IV – Testimony




V – In court cases



VI – In front of mature boys who feel no physical desire


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VII – The man who has no desire


IX – Old women who are past marriageable age




X – Uncovering the face in front of kaafir women


XI – Hajj and ‘Umrah





XII – Compulsion

batool391
05-08-2006, 12:15 PM
Sa wr wb. Le/am postat in original, ptr ca nu am suficient timp la dispozitie ca sa le traduc. Rog pe cei care au timp sa traduca aceste fatawa.

ummraschid
05-08-2006, 02:24 PM
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...pt cei care nu stiu engleza : puteti traduce , din engleza, in franceza , sau in italiana, de pilda, folosind de ex: Google Language Tools, putin cite putin , tot textul...

fie ca Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, sa ne rasplateasca la toti , stradaniile noastre de cautare si aplicare a Cuvintului Sau si a Sunnei Profetului Sau (saws) , si sa ne faca dintre cei fericiti, care se bucura de Binecuvintarea si Milostivirea Sa , inshAllah, amin.



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amal
05-08-2006, 04:28 PM
draga ummraschid, nu stiu daca este bine sa ne bazam pe o traducere din engleza sau orice alta limba in alta limba prin intermediul Google Language Tools. ori de cate ori am tradus altceva prin intermediul acestuia, au aparut discrepante. cred ca vor aparea probleme de intelegere a frazelor si unele greseli.

bine ar fi pentru cei interesati, nevorbitori de limba engleza, sa discutam in romana ceea ce nu inteleg, sau anumite aspecte in privinta carora vor sa fie lamuriti.

ummraschid
05-08-2006, 04:31 PM
Ummrashid Allah sa te rasplateasca pentru efortul tau , fiindca sigur ai tradus din engleza sau franceza:smile19: Allah sa te binecuvanteze.
Cautand si eu despre Niqab , am citit ca nu este permis ca in timpul pelerinajului sa porti Niqab , dar nu prea am inteles clar. Zi de zi (conform unora) este fard , dar in timpul pelerinajului nu.

Abd Allah ibn Omar a zis:
Un om s-a ridicat si a intrebat: O , trimis al lui Allah , care este imbracamintea recomnadata unui pelerin ? Profetul ( saws) a zis: Nu purtati nici camasa , nici pantalon , nici turban , nici capison.Cel care nu are pantofi , poate sa poarte botine cu conditia sa le taia sub glezne. ... Femeia sa nu poarte nici Niqab , nici manusi. (al-Boukhari1468 ).
Sursa: http://laplumedelislam.free.fr/pratique/hajj/4.htm
Allah stie mai bine



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draga Iman, draga surioara,



Hadith - Muwatta 20.16

Relatarea lui Yahya, de la Malik de la Hisham ibn Urwa ca Fatima bint al-Mundhir spunea " obisnuiam sa ne acoperim fetele, cind eram in ihram, in compania lui Asma bint Abi Bakr as-Siddiq."

Deci, o femeie, nu trebuie sa poarte niqab, in sensul de val permanent, peste fata, dar trebuie sa se straduiasca sa le urmeze pe sotiile Profetului (saws) si ale companionilor, descoperindu-si fetele, si acoperindu-si-le, la apropierea barbatilor ne-mahram, chiar si in ihram, aceasta fiind in concordanta cu Sunna. (sursa muttaqun.com)

Chiar pe site-ul pe care l-ai dat tu, http://laplumedelislam.free.fr/pratique/hajj/4.htm ,vei gasi explicatia, ceva mai jos...:

Cheikh Ibn Outhaymine a dit : « Il n’a pas été rapporté que le Prophète (bénédiction et salut soient sur lui) avait interdit à la pèlerine de couvrir son visage. Ce qu’ils lui a interdit c’est le port du niqab puisque celui-ci est exclusivement fait pour le visage. Or il y a une différence entre le port du niqab et la couverture du visage. Cela étant, si une pèlerine se couvre le visage, nous disons que ce n’est pas grave, mais il est préférable qu’elle le laisse découvert sauf en présence d’hommes étrangers. Car elle doit leur cacher son visage ». Voir ach.charh al-mumti’, 7/153.

...deci, interdictia se refera doar la " niqab", ca piesa vestimentara, ca sa zic asa, si NU la acoperirea fetei...bineinteles, doar in cazul apropierii unor barbati straini...

wa Allahu alim!...



draga surioara amal,

ai perfecta dreptate, si imi cer scuze...
...aceste Tools pot fi folosite, insa, trebuie sa avem si ceva idee de limbile respective...mea culpa!...

...eu ma gindisem doar asa, ca ajutor suplimentar , pt ca unele raspunsuri sint f lungi, si timpul nostru liber este , la unii mai scurt, la altii...si mai scurt!...:D
...insa, inshAllah, sa putem ajuta , fiecare , dupa putinta , oriunde este nevoie de ajutor, inshAllah, amin.


fie ca Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala sa va rasplateasca , dragi surori , pt stradaniile voastre fi sabilillah, inshAllah, amin.



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Raisa
05-08-2006, 04:59 PM
Sa wr wb. Le/am postat in original, ptr ca nu am suficient timp la dispozitie ca sa le traduc. Rog pe cei care au timp sa traduca aceste fatawa.

Salam alekom draga sora

Multumesc si tie pt raspuns, chiar sunt fericita ca le-ai postat in engleza, aveam nevoie de ele in engleza. Machallah ce multe informatii. Multumesc si pt link, cu sigursnta va fi f folositor mai ales daca este si in araba

Allah sa te rasplateasca pt efortul tau draga surioara cu ceea ce-ti doresti mai mult, inchallah

Multumesc tuturor care au raspuns, am acum la dispozitie tot ce imi trebuie.

Multumesc si in numele surorii care a avut aceasta intrebare

Jazak Allah Khair

suleiman
05-08-2006, 05:14 PM
:)

Fetelor , aceasta intrebare este foarte importanta .

Quran : 34-30/31
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http://www.rasarit.com/photos/3t4.jpg
Vedeti ce este acoperit cu albastru ?
si sa-si coboare valurile peste piepturile lor:
in araba :
æ áíÖÑÈä ÈÎãÑåä Úáì ÌíæÈåä
Wa-l-iadribna bi-khumurihanna 'ala juiubihinn
Sa arunce valurile asupra :
Juiub in araba este plural la cuvantul Jaib , Jaib inseamna sinus , piept .

Daca o luam dupa medicina , inseamna ca trebuie sa acopere cu valul toata fata pana la piept .
Daca o luam dupa limba araba pura : Inseamna sa acopere fata si pieptul .
Cei care au zis ca este sunna , s-au bazat pe Hadisul: Asmaa a intrat la profetul Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã si avea haine subtiri , iar profetul Õáì Çááå Úáíå æ Óáã , si-a intors fata si i-a zis , o Asmaa , cand o femeie ajunge la menstruatie nu se cuvine sa se vada din ea decat aceasta si aceasta , si a aratat fata si palmele .
Acest hadis se refera la 2 locuri : Rugaciunea si Pelerinaj .
De ce ?
1- Oricat de bine stim si intelegem limba araba , nu o sa fim la fel de buni in intelegerea limbii arabe ca si arabii pe vremea Profetului Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã , si ele (femeile ) , cand a trimis ALLAH aceste versete au inceput sa taie carpele , si sa acopere fetele lor.
2- In versetul 31 de mai sus , se face o exceptie , "afara de ceea ce este pe din afara" , intre acest verset si hadisul mai sus mentionat este o legatura de exceptie : Aceasta exceptie se refera la locuri unde nu sunt barbati (rugaciunea) , si la locuri unde barbatii nu sunt preocupati de femeii si nici de atragerea lor , si unde femeie are nevoie de un permis de a arata fata ca sa vada limpede si palmele ca sa se misca bine fara sa fie impiedicata de nimic (Pelerinajul).
**Toti savantii islamici sunt de acord ca o femeie "frumoasa" trebuie sa acopere fata si palmele .
**Toti savantii islamici sunt de acord ca o femeie care este la menopauza , poate sa-si arate fata si palmele .

Daca aveti intrebari ?

ummraschid
05-08-2006, 05:52 PM
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assalamualaikum wa rahmatuAllahi wa barakatuhu,

....cu privire la starea de Ihram, as fi vrut sa precizez...
...asa cum se deduce de mai sus, interdictia purtarii niqabului, nu exclude acoperirea fetei, in cazul apropierii unor barbati ne-mahram...

citat:
In Fathul Bari, capitolul Hajj:
" 'A'isha (ra) spunea ca o femeie in sadiul de Ihram, trebuie sa traga acoperamintul de pe cap, peste fata , pt a si-o ascunde."

si

citat:
Relatarea lui Yahya, de la Malik de la Hisham ibn Urwa ca Fatima bint al-Mundhir spunea " obisnuiam sa ne acoperim fetele, cind eram in ihram, in compania lui Asma bint Abi Bakr as-Siddiq."

si

citat:
Cheikh Ibn Outhaymine a dit : « Il n’a pas été rapporté que le Prophète (bénédiction et salut soient sur lui) avait interdit à la pèlerine de couvrir son visage. Ce qu’ils lui a interdit c’est le port du niqab puisque celui-ci est exclusivement fait pour le visage. Or il y a une différence entre le port du niqab et la couverture du visage. Cela étant, si une pèlerine se couvre le visage, nous disons que ce n’est pas grave, mais il est préférable qu’elle le laisse découvert sauf en présence d’hommes étrangers. Car elle doit leur cacher son visage ». Voir ach.charh al-mumti’, 7/153.

care inseamna:
Sheikhul Ibn Outhaymine a spus: " Nu s-a relatat ca Profetul (saws) a interzis , in pelerinaj , acoperirea fetei. Ceea ce el (saws) a interzis, este purtarea niqabului, atita timp cit acesta este special confectionat, pt acoperirea fetei. Astfel ca , daca o femeie in ihram, isi acopera fata, noi sintem de parere, ca nu este grav, dar, ca este preferabil, ca ea sa si-o lase descoperita, exceptind, in prezenta barbatilor straini. Caci ea nu trebuie sa le arate fata ."

iar Allah stie cel mai bine.

assalamualaikum wa rahmatuAllahi wa barakatuhu

Raisa
05-08-2006, 06:12 PM
:)


.[QUOTE] Juiub in araba este plural la cuvantul Jaib , Jaib inseamna sinus , piept

Acesta este cuvantul arab scris in Qu'ran la care facusem referire?


**Toti savantii islamici sunt de acord ca o femeie "frumoasa" trebuie sa acopere fata si palmele .

Cum ramane cu ochii? Intrebarea mea la asta se referea

Daca ai raspunsuri...:smile01:

batool391
05-08-2006, 08:03 PM
Eu cred ca fatawa sunt mai mult decat clare si nu ar trebui sa incercam sa gasim justificari in afara lor. Niqabul nu este doar ptr fem frumoase.

suleiman
05-08-2006, 09:45 PM
Eu cred ca fatawa sunt mai mult decat clare si nu ar trebui sa incercam sa gasim justificari in afara lor. Niqabul nu este doar ptr fem frumoase.

Daca te referi la mine :
Eu nu stiu engleza si nu am citi nimic din ce ai postat :)
Nu gasesc justificari ci transmit ce au zis savantii de mai bine de o mie de ani .

suleiman
05-08-2006, 09:51 PM
[quote=admin]:)
Acesta este cuvantul arab scris in Qu'ran la care facusem referire?
Cum ramane cu ochii? Intrebarea mea la asta se referea
Daca ai raspunsuri...:smile01:

Da draga Rania .
Exact asa este scris in limba araba .
Iti dai seama ca atunci nu era cuvantul sinus , dar in araba exact asa se traduce cuvantul .
Sinus = Jaib
Sunusuri = Juiub.

Cei care (si eu fac parte dintre ei) spun ca o femeie trebuie sa aiba fata acoperita s-au bazat pe Quran si pe ce au zis si au facut femeile in vremea profetului Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã .
Despre ochi , pai ochii intra si ei in cele acoperite .

Islamul nu este o religie dura si fixa , daca o femeie nu vede bine sau are probleme daca isi acopera ochii sau nasul sau exista un motiv pentru care nu poate sa-si acopere fata , un motiv religios , medical..atunci poate sa nu-si acopere fata , dar imediat ce motivele nu mai exista atunci se intoarce la normalitate prin a acoperi fata .

myryam
05-08-2006, 11:24 PM
[quote=Rania]
dar imediat ce motivele nu mai exista atunci se intoarce la normalitate prin a acoperi fata .

Nevasta ta asa o sa umble?:rolleyes:

suleiman
05-09-2006, 12:20 AM
[quote=admin]

Nevasta ta asa o sa umble?:rolleyes:

Daca nevasta mea o sa fie musulmanca din nastere da .
Daca o sa fie musulmanca prin convertire , nu . O las pana cand intra credinta in inima ei si ea alege .
ALLAH nu ne-a facut din piatra si islamul este religia milei prin fapte nu prin vorbe .
Daca este crestina , ii cer sa-si respecte ce este scris la crestini , adica sa umble cum a umblat Maria , mama lui Isus .
Daca este evraica , ii cer sa respecte Tora , si sa umble cum este scris in Ea.

myryam
05-09-2006, 01:10 AM
[quote=myryam]

Daca nevasta mea o sa fie musulmanca din nastere da .
Daca o sa fie musulmanca prin convertire , nu . O las pana cand intra credinta in inima ei si ea alege .
ALLAH nu ne-a facut din piatra si islamul este religia milei prin fapte nu prin vorbe .
Daca este crestina , ii cer sa-si respecte ce este scris la crestini , adica sa umble cum a umblat Maria , mama lui Isus .
Daca este evraica , ii cer sa respecte Tora , si sa umble cum este scris in Ea.

Am inteles,adica vrei sa poarte cel putin batic.mie mi se pare o chestie cam drastica pentru o femeie sa-si puna ceva si pe fata,iar pe ochi-deja foarte exagerat.Dar desigur,daca o femeie face aceasta alegere si e multumita cu ea,n-am nimic de zis...Oricum,ma indoiesc ca voi vedea curand asa ceva in Romania.:rolleyes:

p.s.Dar daca o sa fie musulmanca din nastere,dar n-o sa vrea sa-si puna ceva pe ochi si fatza?

latifa
05-09-2006, 01:17 AM
Te referi la niqab cad spui ca nu-ai sa vezi asa ceva in Romania sau la batic.Pentru ca in Romania sunt o vgramada de musulmance care poarta batic!:smile01:

genan
05-09-2006, 01:26 AM
Te referi la niqab cad spui ca nu-ai sa vezi asa ceva in Romania sau la batic.Pentru ca in Romania sunt o vgramada de musulmance care poarta batic!:smile01:


sigur zice de niqab...
dar sa stii myryam ca sunt si in romania femei cu niqab, dar nu le vezi tu....:D :D

:smile01: :smile01:

myryam
05-09-2006, 01:39 AM
Te referi la niqab cad spui ca nu-ai sa vezi asa ceva in Romania sau la batic.Pentru ca in Romania sunt o vgramada de musulmance care poarta batic!:smile01:


Nu ma refer la batic,asta nu mi e pare ceva exagerat sau anormal.Ma refer la asta:

http://www.muhajabah.com/images/niqab/niqab-glasses3.jpg

sau la asta:

http://www.tribalelegance.net/black%20and%20white%20paktoon%20burqa.gif


Genan,or fi,nu zic,dar nu umbla pe strada.Cel putin nu in Bucuresti.Si chiar daca ar umbla,tot nu le-as vedea :D

genan
05-09-2006, 01:44 AM
Nu ma refer la batic,asta nu mi e pare ceva exagerat sau anormal.Ma refer la asta:

http://www.muhajabah.com/images/niqab/niqab-glasses3.jpg

sau la asta:

http://www.tribalelegance.net/black%20and%20white%20paktoon%20burqa.gif


Genan,or fi,nu zic,dar nu umbla pe strada.Cel putin nu in Bucuresti.Si chiar daca ar umbla,tot nu le-as vedea :D


daca nu le vezi "oricum" asta e altceva...
si sunt si in buc si alte orase din romania...
:smile01: :smile01:

myryam
05-09-2006, 01:56 AM
daca nu le vezi "oricum" asta e altceva...
si sunt si in buc si alte orase din romania...
:smile01: :smile01:

Tu porti?Am inteles ca esti musulmanca din familie,nu convertita(scuze daca ma insel).Adminul a aratat cu citatele de rigoare ca e chestie obligatorie.Daca nu porti,chiar as vrea sa stiu ce te retine,daca nu e prea intim.:) Multumesc.

genan
05-09-2006, 02:11 AM
Tu porti?Am inteles ca esti musulmanca din familie,nu convertita(scuze daca ma insel).Adminul a aratat cu citatele de rigoare ca e chestie obligatorie.Daca nu porti,chiar as vrea sa stiu ce te retine,daca nu e prea intim.:) Multumesc.


da, ai inteles bine.... nu sunt convertita, sunt din familia mea asa...
si nu, eu nu port niqab...
si de ce nu port... nu e ceva intim,pot spune:
in primul rand pt ca as avea probleme la vize, cu intrarea si iesirea in si din tara in care traiesc, plus ca aici in romania nu as fi primita la scoala asa....
insa insha allah intr-o zi, daca allah cel care vrea, o sa pun si asta....

suleiman
05-09-2006, 02:16 AM
da, ai inteles bine.... nu sunt convertita, sunt din familia mea asa...
si nu, eu nu port niqab...
si de ce nu port... nu e ceva intim,pot spune:
in primul rand pt ca as avea probleme la vize, cu intrarea si iesirea in si din tara in care traiesc, plus ca aici in romania nu as fi primita la scoala asa....
insa insha allah intr-o zi, daca allah cel care vrea, o sa pun si asta....

Motivul pe care l-ai zis este bun .
Sa dea ALLAH sa termini ce ai de facut si sa te intorci in tara ta cu fruntea sus tinand credinta in suflet si diploma cu note mari in mana .

genan
05-09-2006, 02:19 AM
Motivul pe care l-ai zis este bun .
Sa dea ALLAH sa termini ce ai de facut si sa te intorci in tara ta cu fruntea sus tinand credinta in suflet si diploma cu note mari in mana .


insha allah eu si noi toti sa avem fruntea sus fata de felul cum suntem, sa nu ne fie rusine cu noi....

myryam
05-09-2006, 02:22 AM
Genan,dar tu de unde esti?Vorbesti foarte bine si frumos romaneste.

Va rog frumos sa nu puneti astfel de intrebari pe forum.
Aveti mesajele private puteti sa le folositi .
Multumesc.

genan
05-09-2006, 02:25 AM
multumesc admin..
asta ce vroiam sa ii spun si eu lui myryam.. as prefera sa nu raspund la intrebarea asta in plin forum..... ;)
;)

myryam
05-09-2006, 02:34 AM
multumesc admin..
asta ce vroiam sa ii spun si eu lui myryam.. as prefera sa nu raspund la intrebarea asta in plin forum..... ;)
;)

ok,ti-am trimis pm ;)

amal
05-09-2006, 03:02 AM
Daca Juiub inseamna sinusuri in sensul medical, atunci se intelege ca e obligatoriu niqabul inclusiv cu acoperirea ochilor, pt ca din sinusuri fac parte cele frontale, care sant deasupra sprancenelor.
eu din Coranul in romana inteleg batic + val, dar mi s-a spus ca in araba este alt cuvant mai precis...
oricum e clar, trebuie sa invat araba bine.

nu stiu daca o femeie are rost sa poarte niqab sau batic daca ea se simte fortata sa faca aceasta, sau daca ea nu isi doreste acest lucru.
Dumnezeu stie ce este in sufletele noastre, asa ca mi se pare ceva inutil sa facem un lucru fara sa credem in acel lucru.tot ce facem in credinta o facem pt noi si pt Dumnezeu, nu pt ochii lumii sau pt linistea altora.

genan
05-09-2006, 03:07 AM
Daca Juiub inseamna sinusuri in sensul medical, atunci se intelege ca e obligatoriu niqabul inclusiv cu acoperirea ochilor, pt ca din sinusuri fac parte cele frontale, care sant deasupra sprancenelor.
eu din Coranul in romana inteleg batic + val, dar mi s-a spus ca in araba este alt cuvant mai precis...
oricum e clar, trebuie sa invat araba bine.

nu stiu daca o femeie are rost sa poarte niqab sau batic daca ea se simte fortata sa faca aceasta, sau daca ea nu isi doreste acest lucru.
Dumnezeu stie ce este in sufletele noastre, asa ca mi se pare ceva inutil sa facem un lucru fara sa credem in acel lucru.tot ce facem in credinta o facem pt noi si pt Dumnezeu, nu pt ochii lumii sau pt linistea altora.

sinusuri sunt mai multe... cele de deasupra sprancenelor care le stie toata lumea care e sinusu frontal si mai sunt si sinusurile maxilare, sub ochi, pana la jumate din obraz... si mai sunt si etmoidale... posterior de partea sup a nasului...
deci trageti singure concluzia pe unde trebuie pus valul... :D :D


:smile01: :smile01:

batool391
05-09-2006, 12:11 PM
Daca te referi la mine :
Eu nu stiu engleza si nu am citi nimic din ce ai postat :)
Nu gasesc justificari ci transmit ce au zis savantii de mai bine de o mie de ani .

www.islamqa.com are si optiune in limba araba. Poti citi aceste fatawa in limba araba. Nu am intentionat sa atac pe nimeni cand am facut afirmatia de mai sus.

suleiman
05-09-2006, 01:46 PM
ALLAH sa te rasplateasca .
Am citit in araba si este bine si corect .

Raisa
05-10-2006, 09:09 PM
Multumesc tuturor surorilor care au raspuns precum si adminului.

Jazak Allah khairan

Raspunsurile voastre imi sunt de ajutor

maryam
05-12-2006, 01:42 AM
Este un hadis care ne-a parvenit de la Aysha raa care a spus :Cand s-a pogorat acest verset(versetul valului ) ne-am rupt hainele si ne-am acoperit cu ele fetele si corpurile".
Imi cer scuze dar relatarea nu este exacta decat ca si idee.
Ideea este ca niqabul este obligatoriu si ALLAH swt stie cel mai bine.

Raisa
05-12-2006, 02:23 AM
Este un hadis care ne-a parvenit de la Aysha raa care a spus :Cand s-a pogorat acest verset(versetul valului ) ne-am rupt hainele si ne-am acoperit cu ele fetele si corpurile".
Imi cer scuze dar relatarea nu este exacta decat ca si idee.
Ideea este ca niqabul este obligatoriu si ALLAH swt stie cel mai bine.

Multumesc maryam pt raspuns

Allah sa te rasplateasca

myryam
05-12-2006, 11:14 AM
Ideea este ca niqabul este obligatoriu si ALLAH swt stie cel mai bine.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT][/I]

O sa porti si tu,Maryam?Nu stiu,ma gandesc ca prin tarile arabe e totusi ceva obisnuit,dar la noi nu prea vad cum se poate descurca o femeie acoperita pe fata.Nu mai spun de reactiile oamenilor.

maryam
05-12-2006, 12:14 PM
O sa porti si tu,Maryam?Nu stiu,ma gandesc ca prin tarile arabe e totusi ceva obisnuit,dar la noi nu prea vad cum se poate descurca o femeie acoperita pe fata.Nu mai spun de reactiile oamenilor.



Inshaa ALLAH sa port...de unde sa stiu ce o sa fac????????
Poate nici n-o sa mai fiu daramite sa ma gandesc la ce o sa fac.
La Hajj am incercat sa imi pun de cateva ori dar n-am putut sa ma obisnuiesc (in afara hajjului de fapt ca in ihram nu ai voie):smile308:

maryam
05-13-2006, 04:40 PM
Multumesc maryam pt raspuns

Allah sa te rasplateasca


Pe noi toti Inshaa ALLAH!!!Nu ai de ce habibti.

Raisa
05-13-2006, 08:34 PM
Pe noi toti Inshaa ALLAH!!!Nu ai de ce habibti.

Salam alekom,
Ba da, draga mea, am de ce pt ca in timp ce voi cautati raspunsuri pt mine eu faceam altceva.

Multumesc tuturor care au raspuns

Jazak Allah Khairan

ummraschid
08-29-2010, 06:39 AM
assalamu alaykum wa rahmatu-llahi wa barakatuhu,

...am mutat acest thread mai vechi, de la "Islam", la "Intrebari si Raspunsuri", cu intentia de a-l readuce in atentia noastra, in vederea reimprospatarii memoriei, cu privire la Niqab...

Niqabul nu este o traditie - potrivit unora dintre afirmatiile din ultima vreme - ci face parte din ISLAM, alhamdulillah!

BarakAllahu fikum!