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[aiscia]

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[maryam]

Nu am inteles , dar exact asta am zis si eu , numai ca nu am zis de numele barbatului .
Dovada ca fatima nu era acolo , pentru ca a intart abdul-rahman fara sa ceara voie , adica nu era nici o femeie in afara de cele pe care el are voie sa le vada .

Dar ce ai cu fata mai suleiman?
A spicuit din carte,relatarile despre ultimele clipe din viata Profetului saaws,nu a combatut pe nimeni



P.S:mie tot admin imi vine sa-ti zic,dar suleiman Mashaa ALLAH!
Si de ce o sa urle barbatii?Ca oricum la unii dintre ei e ...din nastere?

[sara]

Salam Aleykum,
Draga admin imi pare rau ca te-am suparat , NU am vrut sa te contrazic si nici nu am de gand . Te respect pentru ce faci si InshAllah sa fii rasplatit de Allah pentru efortul tau cu Ganna . Ya Rab AMIN .
Cred ca ai inteles gresit . Eu am cartea si m-am gandit sa postez . Nu te contrazic dar eu asa am in carte . Este gresit ? Cartea este in lb romana si eu am postat doar ce scrie in ea , fara inventarii . Intradavar Profetul saaw nu a avut doar o zi de dureri , si am specificat ULTIMA ZI DIN VIATA PROFETULUI . Ai avut dreptate Fatima nu a fost cand a murit ,dar rezulta ca a fost in aceasi zi . Tu ai zis cu cateva zile mai devreme . Eu nu sustin ca varianta mea este corecta , asa am citit . In Islam nu trebuie sa-ti dai cu presupusul de aceea noi vrem sa stim adevarul .
Carte din care am citat este tradusa si editat de Liga Islamica si Culturala din Romania - Bucuresti :Editura Islam , 2003
P.S Cred ca trebuie un nou subiect : Biografia Profetului , saaw , deoarece noi ne-am indepartat de la subiect.
Jazak Allah Khairun

[sara]

Scuze acum am observat , este Biografia Nobilului Profet , nu Bibliografia:smile33:

[imanikka]

Salam Aleykum,
Draga admin imi pare rau ca te-am suparat , NU am vrut sa te contrazic si nici nu am de gand . Te respect pentru ce faci si InshAllah sa fii rasplatit de Allah pentru efortul tau cu Ganna . Ya Rab AMIN .
Cred ca ai inteles gresit . Eu am cartea si m-am gandit sa postez . Nu te contrazic dar eu asa am in carte . Este gresit ? Cartea este in lb romana si eu am postat doar ce scrie in ea , fara inventarii . Intradavar Profetul saaw nu a avut doar o zi de dureri , si am specificat ULTIMA ZI DIN VIATA PROFETULUI . Ai avut dreptate Fatima nu a fost cand a murit ,dar rezulta ca a fost in aceasi zi . Tu ai zis cu cateva zile mai devreme . Eu nu sustin ca varianta mea este corecta , asa am citit . In Islam nu trebuie sa-ti dai cu presupusul de aceea noi vrem sa stim adevarul .
Carte din care am citat este tradusa si editat de Liga Islamica si Culturala din Romania - Bucuresti :Editura Islam , 2003
P.S Cred ca trebuie un nou subiect : Biografia Profetului , saaw , deoarece noi ne-am indepartat de la subiect.
Jazak Allah Khairun

Ia sa mai spun eu ce este scris in cartea Biografia Nobilului Profet , ed II 2006.Am vazut ca sunt atatea discutii am zis sa caut si eu...

Deci:

Cu o zi inaintea mortii sale

Duminica , la o zi inainte de a muri Profetul (saws) si-a eliberat sclavii , a platit ca milostenie cei 7 dinari pe care ii datora si a daruit armele sale musulmanilor. Cand s-a lasat noaptea Aisha a trebuit sa imprumute niste ulei de la vecina ei ca sa-si aprinda candela.

Ultima zi in viata

Cand s-a luminat Profetul (saws) a chemat-o pe FAtima si i-a spus in soapta ceva ce a facut-o sa planga . Apoi i-a soptit ceva ce a facut-o s-a rada. Dupa moartea Profetului , Aisha a intrebat-o ce era cu plansul si cu rasul acela , iar Fatima a raspuns : ,, Prima data mi-a dezvaluit ca va muri din cauza acestei boli si eu am plans. Apoi mi-a spus ca eu voi fi prima din familia lui care il va urma, si am ras,,.

Apoi a cerut sa fie adusi Al-Hasan si Al-Husein .A cerut apoi sa-si vada sotiile care au venit.El le-a dat sfaturi si le-a spus sa nu uite de Allah.

Profetul (saws) isi trage ultima rasuflare

Cand chinurile mortii au inceput Aisha l-a sprijinit de pieptul ei .Ea spune : ,,Allah a fost atat de generos cu mine ca Mesagerul lui Allah a murit in casa mea. El a murit sprijinit de pieptul meu si de gatul meu si Allah a mestecat saliva lui cu a mea la moartea lui,,

Deci ddin cate am inteles si eu el a vazut-o pe Fatima in ultima zi din viata sa , dar Aisha a fost cu el in ultima clipa din viata Profetul SAWS

[suleiman]

Am cautat peste tot si nu am gasit decat in cartea publicata de Liga .
Nu stiu ce sa zic , peste tot apare "Cand Profetul s-a imbolnavit a soptit in urechea lui Fatima" fara sa apara ziua si data .

Asa ca , o sa mai caut pana cand ceva care confirma cele publicate in cartea respectiva.

[maryam]

Am cautat peste tot si nu am gasit decat in cartea publicata de Liga .
Nu stiu ce sa zic , peste tot apare "Cand Profetul s-a imbolnavit a soptit in urechea lui Fatima" fara sa apara ziua si data .

Asa ca , o sa mai caut pana cand ceva care confirma cele publicate in cartea respectiva.

Nu numai ,este in multe carti in care este prezentata moartea Profetului saaws si clipele de dinanintea ei,chiar in Viata lui Muhammad (saaws) editata de Centrul cultural Islamic,oricum acesta este un episod care se gaseste si in culegerile de hadisuri.

[amoodia]

Iman acum voiam si eu sa postez ce scrie in cartea BIOGRAFIA NOBILULUI PROFET, din cate am citit la prefata, cartea asta a luat premiul pentru cea mai completa biografie a profetul saws. Allah barik fiki.

[Ishtar]

When the Prophet (SAWS) returned from Hajj, he got very ill. Nine days before his death, this verse descended on him, “And be afraid of the Day when you shall be brought back to Allâh. Then every person shall be paid what he earned, and they shall not be dealt with unjustly.” (TMQ 2:281). Then the Prophet (SAWS) gathered his wives and took their permission to be nursed in Aisha's abode. His companions carried him to her abode. He (SAWS) told her, “There is no god but Allah! Indeed death has its agonies!” Then he became feverish and his wife, Lady Aisha, wiped the sweat from his forehead with his own hand, saying that his hand is nobler than hers. The Prophet then said, “By Allah, I find the taste of the poisoned sheep in my mouth.” (He was referring to the poisoned sheep which he had eaten at the hands of the Jews ).

Two days before his death, he went to visit the graves of Uhud’s martyrs and said, “Peace be upon you, O martyrs of Uhud. You preceded us (i.e. to the Hereafter) and we, if it pleases Allah, will succeed you.” On his way home, the Prophet (SAWS) shed tears and when his companions asked him, “Why are you crying, O Messenger of Allah?” He said, “I miss my brothers.” They asked him, “Are we not your brothers?” He answered, “Rather, you are my companions. My brothers are the people who will come after me and believe in me without ever seeing me.”[19]
His physical condition got worse and his companions gathered in the Prophet’s Mosque to know his physical condition. Their voices became loud. The Prophet (SAWS) heard them and requested to be carried to them. He climbed the pulpit and delivered his last sermon saying, “O People! Verily we will meet not in this world; we will meet there at the Cistern. By Allah, it is as if I see it from my place; and it is as wide as the distance between Aila and Juhfa (Aila is at the top of the Gulf of Aqaba). I am not afraid that you would associate anything with Allah after me, but I am afraid that you may be (allured) by the world and (vie) with one another (in possessing material wealth) and begin killing one another, so that you would be annihilated as were annihilated those who had gone before you.[20]
“O People! Allah gave a choice to one of His worshippers either to choose this world or what is with Him in the Hereafter. He chose the latter.”[21] Upon hearing this, Abu Bakr (RA) wept as he realized that the Prophet (SAWS) was talking about himself and that the choice meant his imminent death. Abu Bakr sobbed so that all those in the mosque heard his crying. Then he stood up and said, “We sacrifice our fathers and mothers for you!” The companions resented his attitude. However, the Prophet (SAWS) said, “O Abu Bakr! Don’t weep.” The Prophet (SAWS) added, “Abu- Bakr has favored us much. If I were to take a Khalil (a bosom friend) from mankind, I would certainly have taken Abu Bakr but the Islamic brotherhood suffices. Close all the gates in the mosque except that of Abu Bakr.”[22]
The Prophet (SAWS) then returned to Aisha’s room. On the eve of his death, Abd El-Rahman Ibn Abu- Bakr came to visit him. He was holding a siwak (the bark of a desert plant used for brushing teeth) in his hand so the Prophet (SAWS) looked at it. Aisha knew that he wanted to brush his teeth so she took the siwak and put it in his mouth, but it was too hard for him. Aisha took the siwak, softened it with her saliva and passed it on to him. Aisha used to say, “It was Allah’s bounty that He had ordained that my saliva was the last thing to enter the inside of the Prophet” (i.e. the last thing the Prophet tasted in his life.)

When Fatima, the Prophet’s daughter, came to visit him, she wept. Whenever she visited him, he used to greet her and kiss her between the eyes, but now he could not. She said, “What an agony are you suffering from, my father!” The Prophet (SAWS) looked at her and said, “Your father will not suffer anymore after this day!” He told her, “Come closer to me, Fatima. O Fatima, I will die tonight.” On hearing this, she wept. Then again he said “Come closer to me.” and told her, “You are the first one of my family to follow me (in death).” so she laughed.[23]

The morning of his death:

On the twelfth of Rabi’e Al-Awal, 11 A.H. at dawn the Prophet (SAWS) opened the door of his room and looked at the Muslims while they were performing dawn prayer and smiled. The Muslims could feel his presence. However, he made a gesture to them to stay still. He watched them and then lowered the curtains of his room.

Aisha recalled the last moments of his life by saying, “When the Prophet (SAWS) was healthy, he used to say, “Verily, no prophet passed away until he was shown his place in paradise and then he is given the option.” When death approached him while his head was on my thigh, he became unconscious and then recovered his consciousness. He then looked at the ceiling of the house and said, “O Allah! Rather (with) the Highest Companion!” I said (to myself), ‘Hence, he is not going to choose us.’ Then I realized that what he had said was the epitome of the narration, which he used to mention to us when he was healthy. The last words he said were, “O Allah! Rather, (with) the Highest Companion!”” [24] The hand of the Prophet (SAWS) then fell, and his head became heavier on Aisha's bosom. She knew that he had passed away. Therefore, she went out to the Prophet’s companions in the Mosque and said, ‘The Messenger of Allah is dead!’”

The attitude of the companions upon hearing the sad news:

All Muslims burst into tears. Ali was unable to get up, and Othman was like a child unable to speak. As for Omar Ibn El-Khattab, he drew out his sword and said, “Some of the hypocrites claim that the Messenger of Allah (SAWS) died. The Messenger of Allah did not die. He went to his Lord as Musa (Moses) had gone to meet his Lord, and he will come back!” Fatima said, “O father! Verily you have answered his Lord Who summoned him. O father, whose abode is Janat Al-Firdous (the highest place in paradise). O father, whose death I announce to Jibril.”

As for Abu-Bakr, he entered Aisha’s room, where the Prophet (SAWS) was, he hugged him and kissed him between his eyes saying, “How good you are in life and in death!” He went on saying, “O my best friend! O my prophet!” Then he went out to the Muslims and said, “O people, if anyone amongst you worships Muhammad, then (he should know that) Muhammad is dead, but if anyone of you worships Allah, then he should know that Allah is Ever-Living and never dies.” He then recited the following verse, “Muhammad is no more than a Messenger and indeed (many) Messengers have passed away before him. If he dies or is killed, will you then turn back on your heels (as disbelievers)? And he who turns back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allâh; and Allâh will give reward to those who are grateful." (TMQ 3:144)

When our Omar Ibn El-Khattab heard that verse, his sword fell from his hand and went out of the mosque looking for a place to weep in. He said, “Whenever a calamity befalls me and then I remember my calamity in losing the Prophet, all my calamities became tolerable for me.”

Anas Ibn Malik said, “The Prophet (SAWS) entered Madinah one Monday and everything in it shone; and he died in it one Monday, and everything in it was darkened.”

Al-Abbas, Ali Ibn Abu-Taleb, Osama Ibn Zaid and Al-Fadhl, the Prophet's uncle, cleansed the Prophet’s body (i.e. to prepare it for burial) while he was clad in his clothes. Then, all Muslims, ten by ten prayed for him. He was buried in Aisha’s room. It is narrated that Fatima said after his burial, “How could you cover the face of the Prophet with dust (i.e. when burying his body)?”

On Monday, 12th Rabi’e Al-Awal, 11 A.H., Bilal (RA) called to the noon prayer and said, “Allah is the Greatest, Allah is the Greatest! I bear witness that there is no god but Allah.” Then on saying, “and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah,” he cried, his voice was well-nigh choked with tears and he started crying, and all those in the Mosque burst into tears.

The Messenger (SAWS) died, just like all human beings, and was buried; and it is incumbent upon us to perform four deeds to inundate our hearts with the Prophet’s love:

1. To ask Allah repeatedly to endow him with His prayers and peace by reiterating, “Allahuma Salli wa Sallim ala Sayidina Muhammad”(i.e. O Allah! Endow Prophet Muhammad with Your prayers and peace'.
2. To study his Seerah (i.e. the Prophet’s Biography)
3. To follow his Sunnah (his moral excellence and deeds).
4. To visit his city, Madinah.


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[19]- An authentic hadith, the complete version of which is in Sahih Muslim, Book 002, Number 0482.
[20]- An authentic hadith in Sahih Muslim, Book 030, Number 5689.
[21] - An authentic hadith in Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 455.
[22]- An authentic hadith in Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 455.
[23] - An authentic hadith in Sahih Bukhari, Book 62, Number 12.
[24] - An authentic hadith in Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 740.

Acest citat este luat de pe site-ul lui Amr Khalid,Seerah Profetului Muhammad(SAWS).

Draga Suleiman,am dat si notele,special,poate-ti vine mai usor daca vei cauta sursele direct in limba araba.

[Ishtar]

The health of the Prophet grew worse. His last days were remarkable for the calmness and serenity of his mind. He was able, though weak and feeble, to lead the public prayers until within three days of his death. He requested that he might be permitted to stay at 'Aisha's house close to the mosque during his illness, an arrangement to which his other wives assented. As long as his strength lasted, he took part in the public prayers. The last time he appeared in the mosque he addressed the congregation, after the usual prayers were over, in the following words: "O Muslims, if I have wronged anyone of you, here I am to answer for it; if I owe anything to anyone, all I may happen to possess belongs to you." A man in the crowd rose and claimed three Dhirhams which he had given to a poor man at the request of the Prophet. They were immediately paid back with these words: "Better to blush in this world than in the next."
The Prophet then prayed and implored Allah's mercy for those who had fallen in the persecution of their enemies. He recommended to all his followers the observance of religious duties and the leading of a life of peace and goodwill. Then he spoke with emotion and with a voice still so powerful as to reach beyond the outer doors of the mosque: "By the Lord in Whose hand lies the soul of Muhammad as to myself, no man can lay hold on me in any matter; I have not made lawful anything excepting what Allah has made lawful; nor have I prohibited anything but that which Allah in His Book has prohibited."
Then turning to the women who sat close by, he exclaimed: "O Fatimah, my, daughter, and Safia, my aunt, work you both that which procure you acceptance with the Lord, for verily I have no power to save you in any wise." He then rose and re-entered the house of Aisha.
After this, the Prophet never appeared at public prayers. A few hours after he returned from the mosque, the Prophet died while laying his head on the bosom of Aisha. As soon as the Prophet's death was announced, a crowd of people gathered at the door of the house of Aisha, exclaiming: "How can our messenger be dead?" Umar said: "No, he is not dead; he will be restored to us, and those are traitors to the cause of Islam who say he is dead. If they say so let them be cut in pieces." But Abu Bakr entered the house at this moment, and after he had touched the body of the Prophet with a -----stration of profound affection, he appear at the door and addressed the crowd with the following speech: "O Muslims, if anyone of you has been worshipping Muhammad, then let me tell you that Muhammad is dead. But if you really do worship Allah then know that Allah is living and will never die. Do you forget the verse in the Quran: Muhammad is not more than a Messenger, and indeed (many) Messengers have passed away before him. If he dies or is killed, will you then turn your back on your heels (as disbeliveers)? And he who turns back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah, and Allah will give reward to those who are grateful." (Ch 3:144 Quran). Upon hearing this speech of Abu Bakr, 'Umar acknowledged his error, and the crowd was satisfied and dispersed.
Al-Abbas, the Prophet's uncle, presided at the preparation for the burial, and the body was duly washed and perfumed. There was some dispute between the Quraish and the Ansars as to the place of burial; however, Abu Bakr settled the dispute by affirming that he had heard the Prophet say that a prophet should be buried at the very spot where he died. A grave was accordingly dug in the ground within the house of Aisha and under the bed on which the Prophet died. In this grave the body was buried, and the usual rites were performed by those who were present.
Thus ended the glorious life of that Prophet Muhammad.
May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him.

Aici ,avem pasajul care ne intereseaza in discutie din Seerah Profetului(SAWS) scrisa de Ibn Kathir.Intreaga carte o puteti gasi pe site-ul "Islam Awareness"

Insha Allah,daca e nevoie, revin cu traducerea.
Allah(SWT) sa va aiba in Paza SA!

[suleiman]

Va rog frumos nu mai publicati nimic in engleza , nu suntem nici englezi si nici americani.
Faceti traducerea si publicati-o , fara sa apara si versiuna engleza .

Pe mine nu ma ajutat la nimic , dar va spun , ca eu nu citesc cartile recente . puteti (cei care stiu araba) , sa cititi "Sirat Iben Hisham" si dupa parerea mea este mai completa pentru ca a fost scrisa la o mica perioada dupa Profet, inainte sa apara nu stiu ce secte si ganduri filozofice precum sufisti si ...

Pe mine ma intereseaza sa stiu cat de corecta este povestea , pentru ca "Ibn Hisham si Hbn Ishac" nu au trecut-o in ce au adunat .

O sa traduc ce am adunat :

Aisha a zis : ne-am adunat noi , nevestele profetului , si nu a plecat nici una pana cand a venit Fatima , si mersul ei era ca si mersul Profetului صلى الله عليه وسلم , si i-a spus buna fica mea , si a pus-o la stanga lui , dupa aceea a soptit in urechea sa atunci ea a plans , dupa aceea a soptit inca o data atunci ea a ras . Atunci am intrebat-o (adica Aisha pe Fatima) iar ea mi-a spus ca nu ar dezvalui secretul profetului , atunci i-am zis :"nu am vazut o bucurie care e aproape de tristete decat astazi , si am intrebat-o de ce i-a spus profetul dar raspunsul ei era "Nu o sa dezvalui un secret al Profetului " . Pana cand Profetul صلى الله عليه وسلم a murit , atunci am intrebat-o ce i-a spus profetul si ea a zis :"Mi-a zis Profetul ca ingerul Gavril ii repeta Quranul o data pe an , dar anul acesta mi l-a repetat de doua ori , si nu vad decat ca mi s-a apropiat ceasul si tu vei fi prima din familia mea dupa mine si eu o sa-ti fiu bunul precedent , atunci am plans , iar el mi-a soptit si mi-a zis nu ti-ar placea sa fi cea mai buna printre femeile credinciosilor ? atunci am ras "
Al-Bukhari 3624 si Muslim 2450.

Anas a zis : Cand Profetul صلى الله عليه وسلم a simitit moartea , a zis fatima "Vai tatului meu" iar Profetul a zis "nu o sa mai fie nici un vai tatului tau dupa ziua de azi A venit tatului tau cea ne nu lasa pe nimeni , intalnirea e in ziua invierii ."
Sunan Iben Majah

Nu am gasit in cartile de hadith sa fie precis ziua in care profetul صلى الله عليه وسلم a spus la fatima ce a spus , dar din Hadithul de mai sus , inteleg ca nu era in ziua in care a murit صلى الله عليه وسلم .